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>> well, we have seen that game played before, hillary clinton, al gore, joe biden and whatever. that's political pandering. this isn't pandering, though, sean. this is obama being who he is. he didn't evolve from the frank marshal davis, derek bell teachings, he didn't evolve from his involvement with bill ayers and reverend jeremiah wright. it's time to realize he doesn't pander, while he uses whatever he needs to at the mome, this is his true self. look at his record. look at his 1998 remarks at loyola -- redistribution. look at his remarks on the warren court, not going far enough. he believe this is stuff. he didn't evolve. he has not grown into the governance of this country. he is who he is. >> sean: the media and the dnc spin is, we knew about this speech. this is what they are saying. >> the transcript,-- >>> the transcript is you new. nobody's seen that before. number 2 is, you know, you are hearing and seeing an obama that he -- it seems -- i keep going back -- who is the real obama? that's not the one that speaks to the american people -- >> this is the real obama-- >
>> well, we have seen that game played before, hillary clinton, al gore, joe biden and whatever. that's political pandering. this isn't pandering, though, sean. this is obama being who he is. he didn't evolve from the frank marshal davis, derek bell teachings, he didn't evolve from his involvement with bill ayers and reverend jeremiah wright. it's time to realize he doesn't pander, while he uses whatever he needs to at the mome, this is his true self. look at his record. look at his 1998...
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but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance from him. the idea that it will be a totally lopsided bloodbath like we saw in denver, by the way, that could overstate it a little bit because at least, joe biden is going to come out more energized and engaged than the president was in denver. just the body language that the play some what to biden's advantage, even if he is sort of off the beaten trail as he so often is. >>eric: lets me push back, after the debate on wednesday night, where mitt romney seemed to -- can we pull up that poll? 72 percent of the people think that mi
but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance...
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joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city. new york.
joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city. new york.
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and whether joe biden feels like he has to compensate for what president obama did not bring to the first debate and whether that causes trouble because, you know, he on least and then say some things that also cause trouble for the obama campaign. lou: you just excited the nation . watching uni right now at the prospect of that. that can be glorious in so many different ways. that comes up next week. our coverage, as always. john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor. we get the feeling that he will be back. carry remains an open question, doesn't it? >> i think the senator will still be the sparring partner from everything we're hearing from the obama folks. i talked to portman in the spin room for a while. and he said that we are not surprised. not one thing. the only thing that we are surprised that is what they didn't hear. know nothing of the 47% take, nothing of bain capital shimano attacks. they were surprised at how passive the president was, and he said frankly the president was not as good as me. lou: well, modest assessment, appropriately. a sparring pa
and whether joe biden feels like he has to compensate for what president obama did not bring to the first debate and whether that causes trouble because, you know, he on least and then say some things that also cause trouble for the obama campaign. lou: you just excited the nation . watching uni right now at the prospect of that. that can be glorious in so many different ways. that comes up next week. our coverage, as always. john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor....
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too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the president saying that the private sector is doing fine or telling entrepreneurs like me that we didn't build our business. why is it when they tell the truth suddenly they are taken out of context. >> there you go again to quote one of our great republican presidents. you note context of that. >> the context was worse than what he said. he said you entrepreneurs put out your chest, you think you are so smart, but you didn't build it. that's the context. >> you left out what he was talking about before that and that was not the tone of his voice. you are not only misrepresenting -- you are myth representing the
too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the...
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. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we agree. the middle class has been buried over the last four years. they're being buried by obama care, by borrowing, taxes, spending, more regulations, all this uncertainty plaguing businesses. the way to fix this is stop this and elect mitt romney. >> on the joe biden, gaffe meter, how big of a gaffe is this? >> joe biden gaffe meter? that's probably different. probably a six for a non-joe biden it would probably be an eight. come on, joe biden makes some great ones. you know, i thought it was interesting yesterday, the amount of conference cal
. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we...
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what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are providing that we are pursuing. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off
what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know...
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. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do. >> sean: yes, you do. finally, a politician is telling you the truth. lich, folks. that's the vice-president. if re-elected over a trillion doctors in new taxes. you want to vote for that option? we'll check in with charles krauthammer on this busy friday edition of "hannity." mike rowe here at a ford dealer with a little q&a for fiona. tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of res? your ford dealer. i'm beginning to sense a pattern. buy four select tires, get a $60 rebate. use the ford service credit credit card, get $60 more. that's up to $120. where did you get that sweater vest? your ford dealer. i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought
. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do. >> sean: yes, you do. finally, a politician is telling you the truth. lich, folks. that's the vice-president. if re-elected over a trillion doctors in new taxes. you want to vote for that option? we'll check in with charles krauthammer on this busy friday edition of "hannity." mike rowe here at a ford dealer with a little q&a for fiona. tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your...
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biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your anticipation here? i think it's obvious what happened with the president debate puts a lot of pressure on joe biden to perform exceptionally but it puts pressure for different reasons on congressman ryan. >> absolutely. look, there's a momentum at this point for governor romney coming out of last week's debate. it stole the opportunity for the obama campaign to kind of cement what had been building into a modest lead. so, you know, people don't tend
biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new...
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biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent? >> he is totally going to do that. not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a tricky position. he would like
biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent?...
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what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher unemployment rates. with class warfare it does not matter the residual damage they're going with this. hoping the public cannot connect the dots? >> it will be interesting hallwood joe biden follows up. $1 trillion tax hike where we want to go. four years ago they told us no tax increases on 81 making less than $250,000. the economy is languishing worse where looking for more tax hikes and four years ago it was zero tax hikes? we have all been hit now we know how the middle-class and people will be affected. obamacare has at least seven pin tax hikes and 30 more on top of that. charles: we discover a couple
what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher...
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so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer, respected in the country, and won bush versus gore as your standin. >> ted olson is one good debater and i hope joe biden shows up more than ted olson, he's one of the best litigators in america but what ted has done is studied joe biden's tapes and record and joe biden's, john style and said, as you know, one of the best litigators in america and is good at adapting to that. chris: have you got lines already prepared, attack lines. >> i'm not a "line" guy, i'm more of a gut guy. i'm more of a -- you know me well, i don't try to be anybody ot
so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer,...
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also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us
also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day...
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i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the last week. i've heard it interpreted 42 different ways, for democrats, how can they use it and what do they need to overcome in the latest numbers? >> at the very least, jamie, the jobs report says that the argument that mitt romney was making about the economy and president obama has to be at least some point attenuated, meaning that bottom line, with unemployment going below 8% for the first time since the start of the administration in '09, the obama administration can make the case that some of their policies have produced some results. given the debate results on tuesday night, this is a pot
i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the...
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where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the challenges that the middle class faces. what joe biden was saying, at which he often says on the campaign trail, is that because of the policies of the last administration and some of the same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to, the middle class was severely punished and has take an while to bounce back. but the president has put the middle class at the center of everything that he has done over the past four years and he'll talk about that tonight. >> now, one of the things that the republicans are sure to talk about tonight is debt. trillions of dollars
where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the...
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this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan stick with the big picture and go after biden on the rising debt and our sky rocketed unemployment and talk about the failed last four years as opposed to being trying to get trapped in some of the bieden spiderwebs that he will try to weave. >> it appears that joe biden is really taking this seriously because the democrats don't want to repeat of the first debate, right? joe biden apparently has taken six days off and practicing, practicing, practicing, especially with zingers. >> yes, absolutely, and he should be taking it seriously. i
this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan...
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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might co
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats...
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joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the first debate by standing next to the president. romney is hoping for that and more as he takes half the spotlight tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that part of the story. >> reporter: romney prepared for weeks. 57% for the latest gallup poll think the president will win the debates to only 33% for romney on this evening main topic the economy economy, romney has an edge. 50% say things will improve if he becomes president to 35% who say they will get worse. if the president is re-elected, only 48% say it will
joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the...
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you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company. he's a very good guy, personally, so it's not as if i -- but honest to god, he still is a heartbeat away from the presidency and when some of the things he says, you know, you're slack-jawed. but i think he'll be well-prepared for this debate. i would remind you, he didn't do that well against sarah palin, so -- but also, paul ryan is a real policy wonk. he knows all the details. so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb num
you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company....
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the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think what you see, though, in some of that polling is that some of the, you know, joe biden as of late put his foot in his mouth a few times in very public ways. he said that the middle class was crushed under, you know, the policies of obama and biden, and he said some things that were problematic. however, paul is a smart guy. he has committed his life to understanding the problems of our economy, presenting a plan for the american people, so i think that paul is going to do -- going to do a great job, but i also think it's very important for people to un
the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think...
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and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has been strategic strategically spent is the question. we've focused a laser on the middle class. there's a week in august where restore had an ad up about jobs, crossroads had an ad up about the debt. >> those are three republican-oriented super pacs. >> romney was advert
and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have...
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vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to it. i really am. foreign and domestic policy issues both will be in play thursday night. it's the only vice presidential debate before the november 6th election. i'm cristina mutchler reporting >> chicago peace activist protested the 11th anniversary of the war in afghanistan today . the protesters marched from tribune tower to obama campaign headquarters. they called for an end to the war in afghanistan... and more money for jobs in the education and health care. nine organizations a co-sponsor today's anti-war protest >> coming up... something we haven't seen from nasa
vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to...
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i agree with you on biden. this is it a man who ran for president and knows how to debate and hoe has a rare ability in politicings. he is human in public and a deeply likeable man and i would not underestimate that importance on television . >> he is like the guy you would sit around and watch tv with. what are you thinking we will see thursday in >> i think a contest between the wonk and the whacko. >> could you be more subtle. >> the vice president can't go through a day without putting the foot in mouth and contrast is clear. paul ryan is articulate and smart guy that exsudes youth and has a command of the facts and knows the budget and understands the economy and i think he is going to do extremely well and a repeat of the presidential debate. >> alice, do you think that paul ryan can be too wonkish. he can go deep in the weed a deblate is it not where you want to lull people into a deep thoughtful discussion; is that a danger for paul ryan. >> i think the romney team is smart and understand what his stren
i agree with you on biden. this is it a man who ran for president and knows how to debate and hoe has a rare ability in politicings. he is human in public and a deeply likeable man and i would not underestimate that importance on television . >> he is like the guy you would sit around and watch tv with. what are you thinking we will see thursday in >> i think a contest between the wonk and the whacko. >> could you be more subtle. >> the vice president can't go through a...